Séance de MARDI 17 septembre 2013

Abdou a écrit:

yosefkeys2 a écrit:

@ Mr Abdou
 
1- Est ce que 1110 MAD est un bon prix pour Managem? ou bien va continuer sa baisse?

2-Concernant  lafarge ciment, est ce que va y avoir une reprise, car le résultat de cette valeur 

para-port a ça baisse qui a connu déci au début de l'année dernière fait croire que va prendre un 

sicle haussier..?

que pensez vous Mr Abdou?

 
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Demain je veut tester ma chance avec managem où la visibilité est plus claire , et encore bien merci Mr Abdou:)

sam2003 a écrit:

Pixon a écrit:

si hafid mes sincères condoléances  que le bon Dieu aitt leurs ames en paix ... 

les profits warnings continuent dans un marché en berne, la dernière hausse du prix de carburant ne fera qu'alourdir les charges de fonctionnement des entreprises, c'est clair que ce gouvernement des fiascos n'a rien à cirer du pouvoir d'achat du citoyen ou de la competitivité des entreprises  nationales...
incapables d'imposer une vraie taxe sur gros bolides (Maroc 1er imprtateur de voitures de luxe en afrique) ,comme ca se fait en france  à travers l'eco bonus/malus ou de reduire le plus gros parque de voitures de fonction dans le monde selon les chiffres de la vie éco,  les barbus n'ont de griffes que pour massacrer le conducteur de 103

Bien dit, Mr Pixon.

I very strongly but respectfully disagree. Moroccans need to be paying market prices for all goods, particularly gasoline. My only regret is that all subsidies cannot be eliminated overnight, as that would indeed cause issues - this gradual reduction of subsidies is the bravest thing that any politician has done in Morocco in over half a century. I congratulate PJD for their courage

As all of you know, the current government subsidies do not benefit the poor. These government subsidies, as they are currently set up benefit primarily those who least need it. A rich man who owns an SUV consumes a lot more gasoline than a poor man who takes the bus. Why should the rich man who owns an SUV have their gasoline subsidized?

Furthermore, why should Property taxes in Morocco be cheaper than automobile taxes? I hope that PJD comes to see that there is a windfall of taxable income available if they dramatically raise property taxes on the top 10% of Moroccan owners to start.

Anyone who owns a villa worth 2,000,000 DH should be paying a minimum of 20,000 DH per year in Property taxes. How does it make sense that you pay more taxes on a $15,000 car with 15 Cylinders than a Villa worth over 4,000,000 DH?

Real Estate should be taxed heavily, all government subsidies removed - and food stamps, free health care and other benefits provided only to the very poorest Moroccans. 

Incidentally, I am not much for Politics as I believe all Politicians eventually just become professional liars, but lets give credit where credit is due. Despite raising taxes, the PJD can still beat any other party, or all of the other parties combined in a fair election. I hope that the economic reforms continue, and that they are complimented with real Judicial reforms which see a complete overhaul of the current system that place entirely too much power in the hands of Judges. Furthermore, maybe we can see some real economic progress when people start feeling the protection of the law and are not afraid to invest their hard earned money in something other than a plot of land.

A hafid5000
 
ALLAH YARHAM WALIDAIK WA JAMIÄ AL MOUSSLIMINE AMINE انا لله و انا اليه راجعون

Bonsoir,


Introduction de JORF LASFAR en novembre ?


Des infos ?

@[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].  ça marche pas avec l'ipad. Difficillement en tout cas!

@oummih if you are a jihadist, it's better for you to go to Syria, and after to paradise to meet with 1000 virgins girls.  I really will be happy ...let the Moroccans quiet. I have never liked your speech and this forum don't need you, because you're a false Algerian polisarian Qatari, CIA  flag. 

PJD is a conservative  (la droite) party using religion as a goodwill "fond de commerce",  and  it'is normal when they fuck the poor and middle class, (pixon know that!). It's a  politic game, and It's legal but no legitime because you can not use the ignorance of people to get the chair!

The Moroccan citizens have to choose the right  person globally and wake up.  There is no free lynch. Our first priority is education. I really believe that....

Yuguerten a écrit:

@[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].  ça marche pas avec l'ipad. Difficillement en tout cas!

@oummih if you are a jihadist, it's better for you to go to Syria, and after to paradise to meet with 1000 virgins girls.  I really will be happy ...let the Moroccans quiet. I have never liked your speech and this forum don't need you, because you're a false Algerian polisarian Qatari, CIA  flag. 

PJD is a conservative  (la droite) party using religion as a goodwill "fond de commerce",  and  it'is normal when they fuck the poor and middle class, (pixon know that!). It's a  politic game, and It's legal but no legitime because you can not use the ignorance of people to get the chair!

The Moroccan citizens have to choose the right  person globally and wake up.  There is no free lynch. Our first priority is education. I really believe that....

Yuguerten, sometimes silence is golden. Better to stay silent and let people think you are a racist ignorant fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt. 

The hatred and venom in your words is very sad. If you had any real education, you would address the points I made. When people attack the individual, it just proves that they are not capable of attacking the argument.

I would tell you to go learn to read and actually try to find out what real democracy means, but I am afraid my words would only be wasted on a blatant, likely alcoholic self hating racist such as yourself.

Your outburst of foul language has exposed you as a fool to everyone on the forum.

Yuguerten a écrit:

1000 vierges are waiting for you!

Yuguerten, you know that drinking alcohol is bad for your health. I can only assume that you are an alcoholic who is venting because you caught your wife cheating on you again. 

My condolences. 

In any event, I forgive you for your cruel mean spirited words, because that is part of being a good Muslim.

If you really value education, I suggest that you get educated. Being educated means that you can listen to other people's positions, disagree and be able to formulate arguments in a respectful, intelligent way that counter the other person's point of view. Using foul language and resorting to anti-Islamic rhetoric, particularly when you are living in a place that is majority Muslim is not only poorly thought out, but downright foolish.

I accept your apology Yuguerten, and I wish you a happy life Inshallah brother. Racism comes from fear. Don't be a coward, be brave, and God Willing, God will show you kindness Inshallah.

TILILA a écrit:

Bonsoir,


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Pelican avait parlé d'une entreprise oeuvrant dans le domaine de l'energie ...

bsr, si Hafid ALLAH YARHAM WALIDAIK WA JAMIÄ AL MOUSSLIMINE AMINE انا لله و انا اليه راجعون

Oummih a écrit:

sam2003 a écrit:

Bien dit, Mr Pixon.

I very strongly but respectfully disagree. Moroccans need to be paying market prices for all goods, particularly gasoline. My only regret is that all subsidies cannot be eliminated overnight, as that would indeed cause issues - this gradual reduction of subsidies is the bravest thing that any politician has done in Morocco in over half a century. I congratulate PJD for their courage

As all of you know, the current government subsidies do not benefit the poor. These government subsidies, as they are currently set up benefit primarily those who least need it. A rich man who owns an SUV consumes a lot more gasoline than a poor man who takes the bus. Why should the rich man who owns an SUV have their gasoline subsidized?

Furthermore, why should Property taxes in Morocco be cheaper than automobile taxes? I hope that PJD comes to see that there is a windfall of taxable income available if they dramatically raise property taxes on the top 10% of Moroccan owners to start.

Anyone who owns a villa worth 2,000,000 DH should be paying a minimum of 20,000 DH per year in Property taxes. How does it make sense that you pay more taxes on a $15,000 car with 15 Cylinders than a Villa worth over 4,000,000 DH?

Real Estate should be taxed heavily, all government subsidies removed - and food stamps, free health care and other benefits provided only to the very poorest Moroccans. 

Incidentally, I am not much for Politics as I believe all Politicians eventually just become professional liars, but lets give credit where credit is due. Despite raising taxes, the PJD can still beat any other party, or all of the other parties combined in a fair election. I hope that the economic reforms continue, and that they are complimented with real Judicial reforms which see a complete overhaul of the current system that place entirely too much power in the hands of Judges. Furthermore, maybe we can see some real economic progress when people start feeling the protection of the law and are not afraid to invest their hard earned money in something other than a plot of land.

Mr Ommi pouvez vous me dire combien ça coûte le gallon d'essence aux USA ? où le smic est 10 fois celui du Maroc ? Pouvez vous me dire quel pays du continent Africain paye aussi cher le litre d'essence ? ... C'est l'ingérence du FMI (que je l'exprime comme : Famine, Mendicité et Ingérence) qui cause ce problème en ruinant les pays qui tombent sous ces griffes...

@Yuguerten @Oummih

comme dit le proverbe, mloukoum ka ytal3o drya men Ghir Jawi :shock:badlou sa3a bokhra

SVP évitez les attaques personnels, par respect au forum au moins.

@ Oummih: if the governement is reducing subsidies, it simply because IMF pulled their ears, not of sympathy for poor people... and I'm OK with Yguerten, they've been always using religion as cover to manipulate the crowd. otherwise, real muslims "real brave ones " wouldn't go low and use it as slogan to grab the support of the majority. ISLAM is not a tool to use to crawl with to get power